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Keysta7



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PostSubject: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:26 am

Hey guys I'm fairly new to the game and I was wondering if anybody could break down what feeders are, how exactly they work, and how to efficiently use them. Thanks in advance!
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:55 am

Topic moved to Topic Suggestions.

Feeders are cards used to enhance another card. These usually range from 1* to 2* but some people also use 3* for it. I really can't help you with the best method to enhance since I only train through quests (I'm a cheapo :p) but I'm sure one of our members can help you out!

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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:50 am

Cool thanks for the info! I hear about ppl using leveled up 2* cards as feeders any idea on how that works?
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:03 pm

I know this was a few days ago, but --

I don't know the best way myself, but keep in mind that the higher the rank (and level) the card, the more experience the card you're enhancing gets from it.

I've typically just leveled up my 2*s to level 4 (it takes three 1*s to do that, to level 5 it would take me five) and then pump a bunch into a card all at once. Also, the lower level the card you are enhancing is, the more exp it gets at once and the less enhancing costs. So it's a smart idea to save up 40-50 (or more) feeders and dump them all into a new level 1 card at once.
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:33 pm

I'm sitting on a bunch of 4* cards in the L50-60 range, and since I'm cheap I don't have a ready source of 3*s for feeders. What's my best method going to be to pump them up to L80 so I can continue building my someday-I-will-own-a-5* fund?

If I overload an enhance by putting too much in, will it stop at the card's level max or will it waste the overflow?
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:20 pm

I imagine it would just overflow but I wouldn't know. Besides it would be hard to get there from the level 50-60 stage.

The cheapest way to level up a card is, of course, to put it in 24-6 with five allies and do this over and over and over. It's free, except for the time it takes!
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:12 am

Cheapest way, certainly, but also the worst in terms of time and effort involved. If grinding the sixties and seventies for days on end is the only non-$$$ route to a first 5*, I'll fall off the wagon and find a new addiction long before reaching that point. I'm willing to spend luna to make luna and try to work out where the time-efficiency and luna-efficiency curves intersect.

Obviously, "watch what the big guys do" is a valid strategy, and most seem to be buying 2*L4s or 2*L5s regularly. 2*s are a renewable resource, so it's just a question of how far to level them and how many to use and how much to leave to the 24-6 grind. Superman_1234 spoke of 3* feeders elsewhere as well, and one sees 3*s in the <= 50k range in trade, but I'm not sure burning 3*s to lift 4*s is going to be productive. But will selling 3*L20s to fund pumping bears into high 4*s work out? Just continue selling batches of 2*L5s? I have six L4s around L60 right now, so I have some space for experimentation.
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PostSubject: Why is high level useful?   Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:35 pm

Other than events, why are high level characters useful?

There are only 20 training episodes, and 24 quest episodes, and it's not that hard to finish them all...

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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:38 pm

Simply put: Cards of x stars are best leveled by burning cards of ( < x ) stars, the more experienced the better.

Therefore, maxed 4* cards hold value for people trying to level up their 5*s and 6*s. Since the paths to getting your own 5s and 6*s are, essentially:

1) spend real money
2) extreme luck with your occasional free Premium Tickets
3) grind millions of luna

selling maxed 4*s and other useful feeders is about the only viable method that isn't #1 or #2.

(Why are people leveling up their 5*s? For their trade value towards better 5*s and 6*s. Why are people leveling up their 6*s? Because they can.)

Also, special events like the just-finished Demon's Tower give uberleveled cards reasons to exist.
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:28 pm

Events are a big reason to have 5/6* cards, yes. Although the normal quests are easy, some events can be a lot harder and are easier completed with better units. Besides, if you have higher-ranked cards you typically end up with allies that also have higher ranked cards. Aside from having a strong army of units I feel like this also gives you more trading opportunities and so on.
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:59 pm

Question:

Does it matter what order your enhancing cards are in? confused
i.e. If I'm enhancing a card with 30 cards (at once) and the 1st 5 are 1* then the next 10 are 2* then the next 15 are 3*, does the xp given from the higher * cards have any effect on the card being enhanced since the card is increasing in level? As the enhancing continues the card is incrasing in level, so 1* cards give less xp obviously, but the 2* & 3* cards give more to a card whose xp gap is increasing.

Or when you can enhance a card with 30 cards in whatever order it doesn't even matter, as it is preset? confused



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PostSubject: Don't think order matters   Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:32 pm

I don't think the order matters. Fantasica seems to have two exp scales. One is the true exp (which is what you see when you complete quests). The other is a 0-100 scale indicating percentage of current level.

My guess is each card gives a set amount of exp of the first kind. But when you convert it to the second scale, it looks to be less.
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:27 am

What Strenhelden says makes a lot of sense. I imagine whatever exp is added is of the "true" exp variety - it just takes more and more of that as the unit levels up. Furthermore I don't think there is a way to decide what gets used to enhance first, so it shouldn't be a concern.
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PostSubject: I've been crunching...   Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:30 pm

Just a few things of note that I've found while enhancing recently:

It takes approximately 17 lv1 ★ to get a lv1 ★★ to level 10.
It takes less than 6 (but more than 5) lv10 ★★ to get a ★★★ to level 20.

Keep in mind I do have several of the enhancing upgrades, so these numbers might be a little off if you don't have any skill points in enhancing.
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PostSubject: Re: Leveling and enhancing your cards   Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:55 pm

On the other hand it takes three 1★ to enhance a 2★ to level 4, or one run through 24-6 to do so (you can't do this with monsters though, just units). One level 10 2★ is better than three level 1 2★.
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