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PostSubject: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:19 am

From the announcement, from the 28th September 2012 - all accounts must be registered in order to receive anything from your inbox as well as trading. Further up from the notice it highlighted a few things such as the policy, the purpose of trading etc. I can see why they are doing this but my main concern is that if you lose your device you have to start again (if you haven't registered it) or if you upgrade your device and want to play with it using the old account you have to create a new account, get to level 30 and then transfer it from the old account (I'm not sure what the policy in other accounts are).

There are good and bad for the reasons of doing it; namely to stop people using multi acounts on one device I suppose. Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:47 am

I think it's completely stupid to make a game that's played on a cellphone be tied to the device since cellphones are something that people CONSTANTLY upgrade (usually once every 2 years, on average, depending on the user). If people can't transfer their accounts from their old phone to a new phone, then they will lose a LOT of customers very quickly, because nobody is going to want to spend money on a game they'll have to start completely over when they next decide to upgrade their phone (or replace a broken/stolen one, which also happens a hell of a lot).

TERRIBLE business move.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:45 am

chaosbladeuk wrote:
From the announcement, from the 28th September 2012 - all accounts must be registered in order to receive anything from your inbox as well as trading. Further up from the notice it highlighted a few things such as the policy, the purpose of trading etc. I can see why they are doing this but my main concern is that if you lose your device you have to start again (if you haven't registered it) or if you upgrade your device and want to play with it using the old account you have to create a new account, get to level 30 and then transfer it from the old account (I'm not sure what the policy in other accounts are).

There are good and bad for the reasons of doing it; namely to stop people using multi acounts on one device I suppose. Thoughts?
Bad. The game is on the way to becoming like R.O.B, which is definitely NOT good at all. Bad move Silicon, bad move.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:21 am

I changed the title to reflect what this discussion topic is about.

First of all:
All the warnings about trades & getting scammed are exactly what I wrote about in my sticky. Silicon/mobage are not going to help you if you hit "trade" and traded away your 6* on a shitty deal of an album trade and never get it back. This much was always obvious.

But there are two new rules:
- You can only start trading once your account reaches level 30. This isn't something I necessarily disagree with. I know of quite a few people who just registered new accounts and sent the stuff over (I think you get 3TE for completing the tutorial) to give their main account a head start. They can't do this anymore.
- Device registration. While I don't disagree with this particularly, the whole "can't be registered on a different device" seems like it will be a major hassle. What about people who are playing the game now and have an iphone 5 in the way? Guess they will deal with support in a few weeks! What about people who might play on an iPad and their phone? Or have a couple phones that they play on?

If it wasn't one-device-per-account but one-account-per-device, I think it would work out better. Now, I'm sure you will be able to register your account on a different device, but you will have to go through support to do it. That's more of a hassle.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:23 am

I agree, this is a poor decision. As was mentioned, people commonly upgrade devices, or devices break and need replacing. There has to be something that can be done to transfer the account in that instance.

I currently have both an iPhone (for the next 6 months for work), and a Galaxy 3 (Personal). I play more on the iPhone as it is always connected to 3G, whereas the Samsung is Wi-Fi only for now. After my time with the iPhone, I will definitely be using my Galaxy full time. I'll be registering the Galaxy, however I now face not playing much (in-turn not buying much) until then I suppose. Their loss.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:09 am

That's lame. I usually play on my tablet when I'm at home and on my phone when I'm away. Now I can only play on one device which would be my phone since i always have it with me. But I plan on upgrading my phone in a couple of months. There is joy on playing on a bigger screen but it's tougher for me to drag that thing around. Hopefully, I can talk them into letting me register more than one device. I wonder what the thought process was behind this.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:13 am

(Waking up ranting) Well if they are trying to model after a "successful" game like RoB which has over 3 mil users, Cryptids with over 2 mil users (I can't remember after the tutorial if you had to register the app to the device) can you blame them for trying to do so? Change is something people never embrace in any situation.

With that being said, if the game is heading in the direction of "RoB," then be prepared to have a lot more than just scammers on the way. Think of all the hacking incidents that came with RoB after hitting their 3mil mark. In response RoB change their whole set up of trading system. Blah blah blah. (Done w/ ranting)

Just completely lost my train of thought.. It's too early in the mornin to be serious lol

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:39 am

How do they handle changing devices in RoB or any other game with device registration? Does mobage or whoever is in charge of that actually honor device change requests?

Also the level 30 trade thing is understandable. I figured they would make the 3 elixirs you get in the beginning non tradable,but since you get a 3* from referral too, that might be the best way to go about this issue.

Did you guys notice the trading in-game goods outside of game notice as well? It's been in the notice since forever, but the fact that they have to mention it again seems interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:44 am

pnoytroi wrote:
(Waking up ranting) Well if they are trying to model after a "successful" game like RoB which has over 3 mil users, Cryptids with over 2 mil users (I can't remember after the tutorial if you had to register the app to the device) can you blame them for trying to do so? Change is something people never embrace in any situation.

With that being said, if the game is heading in the direction of "RoB," then be prepared to have a lot more than just scammers on the way. Think of all the hacking incidents that came with RoB after hitting their 3mil mark. In response RoB change their whole set up of trading system. Blah blah blah. (Done w/ ranting)

Just completely lost my train of thought.. It's too early in the mornin to be serious lol

like i said, 3 mil? Half of them are probably alternate accounts LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:53 am

I'm sure there will be a way to contact support to get the device changed -- it's just a bit harsh how they framed it.

I also don't think the trading level restriction is too bad, although I agree that it may have made more sense to just make those elixirs personable.

Also, considering mobage is in charge of running Fantasica over here, I don't think it's them attempting to model Fantasica over RoB or LotC -- they run those too, so it's just them bringing the model in line with everything else.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:56 am

Shokkeru wrote:
Did you guys notice the trading in-game goods outside of game notice as well? It's been in the notice since forever, but the fact that they have to mention it again seems interesting.

I think we're just pushing this one under the rug.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:59 am

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like i said, 3 mil? Half of them are probably alternate accounts LOL

:-p I said I was just waking up lol shush. And still can't get over that Kirlx situation. Should've asked for more in that trade :-/

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:01 am

n00face wrote:
Shokkeru wrote:
Did you guys notice the trading in-game goods outside of game notice as well? It's been in the notice since forever, but the fact that they have to mention it again seems interesting.

I think we're just pushing this one under the rug.
Our forums don't condone any cross-game or currency trading, and we've banned people for it before. I realize it's probably prevalent or conducted elsewhere, but our policy is aimed to be in-line with Fantasica's. :p

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:11 am

pnoytroi wrote:
tzerherman wrote:


like i said, 3 mil? Half of them are probably alternate accounts LOL

:-p I said I was just waking up lol shush. And still can't get over that Kirlx situation. Should've asked for more in that trade :-/

What Kirix situation? maybe i can help?
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement Sept 27: Device Registration & New Trading Rules   Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:14 am

tzerherman wrote:
pnoytroi wrote:
tzerherman wrote:


like i said, 3 mil? Half of them are probably alternate accounts LOL

:-p I said I was just waking up lol shush. And still can't get over that Kirlx situation. Should've asked for more in that trade :-/

What Kirix situation? maybe i can help?

Trade traded them their Ana for Kir's Cecilia 1:1

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